An exasperated and pissed off Division of Homeland Safety legal professional declared in a surprising second in courtroom that her job “sucks,” the present authorized course of “sucks,” and that she generally needs that the choose would maintain her in contempt so she “can have a full 24 hours of sleep.”
Julie Le, who in keeping with public information is a Division of Homeland Safety legal professional that had been detailed to the U.S. Lawyer’s workplace, was known as to testify Tuesday in U.S. District Court docket in St. Paul, Minn., about why the federal government has been nonresponsive to judicial orders concerning folks in ICE detention.
“What would you like me to do? The system sucks,” Le instructed Choose Jerry Blackwell, in keeping with a courtroom transcript obtained by ABC Information. “This job sucks. And I’m making an attempt [with] each breath that I’ve in order that I can get you what you want.”
Blackwell mentioned the administration has routinely not been following courtroom mandates, ignoring a number of orders for detainees to be launched that has resulted of their continued detainment for days and even weeks.
On this Dec. 15, 2021, file photograph, the U.S. District Courthouse for the District of Minnesota is proven in St. Paul, Minn.
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“The overwhelming majority of the a whole bunch [of individuals] seen by this courtroom have been discovered to be lawfully current as of now within the nation,” mentioned Blackwell. “In some cases, it’s the continued detention of an individual the Structure doesn’t allow the federal government to carry and who ought to have been left alone, that’s, not arrested within the first place,” in keeping with the transcript.
Operation Metro Surge has “generated a quantity of arrests and detentions that has taxed present programs, staffing, and coordination between DOJ and the DHS,” Blackwell acknowledged, however mentioned that was no excuse for the federal government’s lack of response to courtroom orders.
“The amount of circumstances and issues isn’t a justification for diluting constitutional rights and it by no means may be” mentioned Blackwell. “It heightens the necessity for care. Having what you’re feeling are too many detainees, too many circumstances, too many deadlines, and never sufficient infrastructure to maintain up with all of it isn’t a protection to continued detention. If something, it must be a warning signal.”
Blackwell additionally questioned Le concerning why the Donald Trump administration shouldn’t be held in contempt for violating courtroom orders.
Protestors conflict with federal brokers exterior the Bishop Henry Whipple Federal Constructing in Saint Paul, Minnesota, on Jan. 8, 2026.
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“I’m right here as a bridge and a liaison between the one which [is] in jail, as a result of if I stroll out – generally I want you’d simply maintain me in contempt, Your Honor, in order that I can have a full 24 hours of sleep. I work day and evening simply because persons are nonetheless in there,” Le mentioned.
Le additionally instructed the choose that she had beforehand submitted her resignation from her DHS submit, “however they could not discover a substitute. So I gave them a selected time … to get it executed. If they do not, then by all means, I will stroll out,” she mentioned.
An official confirmed to ABC Information that Le is now not detailed to the U.S. legal professional’s workplace. Le didn’t instantly reply to an ABC Information request for remark.
Le additional instructed Blackwell in courtroom that it was like “pulling tooth” to get a response from ICE concerning judicial orders.
Le mentioned she “stupidly” volunteered for the project with DHS as a result of they have been “overwhelmed and so they need assistance” and that she has solely been within the job for a month.
“Once I began with the job, I’ve to be trustworthy, we’ve no steerage on what we have to do,” Le instructed the courtroom.
Federal brokers make a visitors cease on an individual as they supply a passport for identification, Jan. 27, 2026, in Minneapolis.
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“You acquired no correct orientation or coaching on what you have been purported to do?” Blackwell requested.
“I’ve to say sure to that query,” Le responded.
Blackwell additionally questioned Le about issues he had concerning ICE detainees who have been ordered launched however that had already been moved to services in El Paso or New Mexico, and individuals who had been unlawfully detained however have been instructed they needed to put on an ankle monitor as a situation of their launch, “which the courtroom didn’t order as a result of the individual was unlawfully detained within the first place.”
“I share the identical concern with you, your honor,” Le responded. “I’m not white, as you’ll be able to see. And my household’s in danger as every other folks which may get picked up, too, so I share the identical concern, and I took that concern to coronary heart.”
“Fixing a system, a damaged system,” Le mentioned. “I don’t have a magic button to do it. I haven’t got the ability or the voice to do it.”
Choose Blackwell started the listening to with a stern admonition that “a courtroom order isn’t advisory, and it isn’t conditional,” and “it isn’t one thing that any company can deal with as non-obligatory whereas it decides how or whether or not to adjust to the courtroom order.”
Secretary of Homeland Safety Kristi Noem in Washington, Jan. 24, 2026, Border Czar Tom Homan in Washington, Jan. 14, 2026 and Border Patrol commander Greg Bovino in Minneapolis, Jan. 13, 2026.
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“Detention with out lawful authority is not only a technical defect, it’s a constitutional damage that unfairly falls on the heads of those that have executed nothing flawed to justify it. The people affected are folks. The overwhelming majority of the a whole bunch seen by this courtroom have been discovered to be lawfully current as of now within the nation. They reside of their communities. Some are separated from their households,” Blackwell mentioned.
“The DOJ, the DHS, and ICE are usually not above the legislation. They do wield extraordinary energy, and that energy has to exist inside constitutional limits. When courtroom orders are usually not adopted, it is not simply the courtroom’s authority that is at situation. It’s the rights of people in custody and the integrity of the constitutional system itself.”
Blackwell adjourned the listening to saying he would all that he heard underneath advisement.
